That was a wonderful conversation. As one of the Platonists that you felt might be offended, I would say you did a nice job negotiating that terrain, and it helped me get a better fit into your worldview and interpretation.
I'd still lean more into aporia as an example that Plato/Socretes don't place too much faith in abstraction or the forms. They are pretty sure that any house of cards built on language and abstraction will fall apart if taken too seriously.
Neither / Nor might be the recognition that building an abstract house of cards will inevitably lead to their tumbling, then then a restacking towards the next tumble. And this is good. Neither house of cards nor messy cards flung about the floor.
That might be a shit metaphor, but it was kinda fun trying!
'....“latent Platonism,” an unconscious tendency to prioritize abstract, theoretical constructs over direct, embodied experience.'
This relates to the important process if thinking examining itself. Being aware of the above "tendency" in ourself to unconsciously prioritise theoretical responses to direct experience is one way to upgrade the way we decipher the world correctly.
In fact, a sophisticated field of thought known as "General Semantics" had been founded by Alfred Korzybski (famous as the originator of the warning "the map is not the territory"). The basic advice is to learn to become aware of ones abstractions.
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I wrote the above version myself.
Then, as an experiment, I told the built-in AI here to improve it and make it longer. Below is the result. I hope Bryan, that you do not mind including this experiment as my comment.
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Here is the expanded version:
The concept of "latent Platonism" describes an unconscious psychological tendency where individuals instinctively prioritize abstract, theoretical constructs over direct, embodied sensory experience and immediate perception.
This relates to the profoundly important intellectual process of thinking examining its own mechanisms and inherent biases. By becoming consciously aware of this subtle tendency within ourselves to unconsciously prioritize theoretical or conceptual responses instead of engaging directly with immediate experience, we can significantly upgrade and refine the way we perceive, interpret, and comprehend the world around us.
In fact, a sophisticated and nuanced field of thought known as "General Semantics" had been pioneered and founded by Alfred Korzybski, who became particularly famous for originating the insightful warning that "the map is not the territory" - meaning that our mental representations and theoretical models should never be confused with the complex, dynamic reality they attempt to describe.
The fundamental advice emerging from this philosophical approach is to deliberately cultivate an awareness of our own mental abstractions, to recognize the difference between our conceptual frameworks and the raw, unmediated experience of reality itself, and to develop a more sophisticated and self-reflective approach to understanding and interpreting our lived experience.
That was a wonderful conversation. As one of the Platonists that you felt might be offended, I would say you did a nice job negotiating that terrain, and it helped me get a better fit into your worldview and interpretation.
I'd still lean more into aporia as an example that Plato/Socretes don't place too much faith in abstraction or the forms. They are pretty sure that any house of cards built on language and abstraction will fall apart if taken too seriously.
Neither / Nor might be the recognition that building an abstract house of cards will inevitably lead to their tumbling, then then a restacking towards the next tumble. And this is good. Neither house of cards nor messy cards flung about the floor.
That might be a shit metaphor, but it was kinda fun trying!
With aporia,
Loved the conversation.
I enjoyed the podcast. Interesting observation that even our most abstract activities (eg writing an academic paper) are a bid for human connection.
Sounds fascinating - looking forward to listening.
'....“latent Platonism,” an unconscious tendency to prioritize abstract, theoretical constructs over direct, embodied experience.'
This relates to the important process if thinking examining itself. Being aware of the above "tendency" in ourself to unconsciously prioritise theoretical responses to direct experience is one way to upgrade the way we decipher the world correctly.
In fact, a sophisticated field of thought known as "General Semantics" had been founded by Alfred Korzybski (famous as the originator of the warning "the map is not the territory"). The basic advice is to learn to become aware of ones abstractions.
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I wrote the above version myself.
Then, as an experiment, I told the built-in AI here to improve it and make it longer. Below is the result. I hope Bryan, that you do not mind including this experiment as my comment.
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Here is the expanded version:
The concept of "latent Platonism" describes an unconscious psychological tendency where individuals instinctively prioritize abstract, theoretical constructs over direct, embodied sensory experience and immediate perception.
This relates to the profoundly important intellectual process of thinking examining its own mechanisms and inherent biases. By becoming consciously aware of this subtle tendency within ourselves to unconsciously prioritize theoretical or conceptual responses instead of engaging directly with immediate experience, we can significantly upgrade and refine the way we perceive, interpret, and comprehend the world around us.
In fact, a sophisticated and nuanced field of thought known as "General Semantics" had been pioneered and founded by Alfred Korzybski, who became particularly famous for originating the insightful warning that "the map is not the territory" - meaning that our mental representations and theoretical models should never be confused with the complex, dynamic reality they attempt to describe.
The fundamental advice emerging from this philosophical approach is to deliberately cultivate an awareness of our own mental abstractions, to recognize the difference between our conceptual frameworks and the raw, unmediated experience of reality itself, and to develop a more sophisticated and self-reflective approach to understanding and interpreting our lived experience.